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I took a break from blogging about Mass Effect 3 until there was news about the additional content BioWare had planned. No use in wasting time speculating when there wasn’t any information to be found about what BioWare was planning. Suffice to say, things have gone from bad to worse.

Hat-tip to IsaacShep at the BioWare Social Network for this. First, the official statement from Electronic Arts (EA).

REDWOOD CITY, Calif.–(BUSINESS WIRE)–BioWare, a Label of Electronic Arts Inc. announced Mass Effect™ 3: Extended Cut, a downloadable content pack that will expand upon the events at the end of the critically acclaimed Action RPG. Through additional cinematic sequences and epilogue scenes, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will give fans seeking further clarity to the ending of Mass Effect 3 deeper insights into how their personal journey concludes. Coming this summer, the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut will be available for download on the Xbox 360® videogame and entertainment system, PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system and PC for no extra charge*.

“We are all incredibly proud of Mass Effect 3 and the work done by Casey Hudson and team,” said Dr. Ray Muzyka, Co-Founder of BioWare and General Manager of EA’s BioWare Label. “Since launch, we have had time to listen to the feedback from our most passionate fans and we are responding. With the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut we think we have struck a good balance in delivering the answers players are looking for while maintaining the team’s artistic vision for the end of this story arc in the Mass Effect universe.”

Casey Hudson, Executive Producer of the Mass Effect series added, “We have reprioritized our post-launch development efforts to provide the fans who want more closure with even more context and clarity to the ending of the game, in a way that will feel more personalized for each player.”

The Mass Effect franchise is one of the most highly decorated series in the history of games, having earned over 250 awards from critics around the world. Mass Effect 3 launched last month to universal critical acclaim, receiving over 75 perfect scores. For more information on Mass Effect 3, please visit http://masseffect.com, follow the game on Twitter at http://twitter.com/masseffect or “like” the game on Facebook at http://facebook.com/masseffect. Press assets for Mass Effect 3 are available at http://www.info.ea.com.

Second, a statement from BioWare’s darklarke, as to what “Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn’t.”

An official press release went out today announcing how we are re-prioritizing the Mass Effect 3 post release content schedule to provide a more fleshed out experience for our fans. For many of you the “Extended Cut” will help answer some questions and give closure to this chapter of the Mass Effect story. Oh and it’s at no cost to you – the fan.

Here is a mini FAQ to help you understand what the Mass Effect 3: Extended Cut is and isn’t:

What can fans expect from the Extended Cut DLC?

For fans who want more closure in Mass Effect 3, the DLC will offer extended scenes that provide additional context and deeper insight to the conclusion of Commander Shepard’s journey.

Are there going to be more/different endings or ending DLCs in the future?

No. BioWare strongly believes in the team’s artistic vision for the end of this arc of the Mass Effect franchise. The extended cut DLC will expand on the existing endings, but no further ending DLC is planned.

What is BioWare adding to the ending with the Extended Cut DLC?

BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences. The goal of these new scenes is to provide additional clarity and closure to Mass Effect 3.

When will the Extended Cut DLC be available?

Currently the Extended Cut DLC is planned for this summer, no specific date has been announced at this point.

Why are you releasing the Extended Cut DLC?

Though we remain committed and are proud of the artistic choices we made in the main game, we are aware that there are some fans who would like more closure to Mass Effect 3. The goal of the DLC is not to provide a new ending to the game, rather to offer fans additional context and answers to the end of Commander Shepard’s story.

Will there be more Mass Effect 3 DLC?

More content is being planned and we will release information at a later date.

So there you have it. Are we proud of the game we made and the team that made it? Hell yes. Are we going to change the ending of the game? No. Do we appreciate the passion and listen to the feedback delivered to us by our fans? Very much so and we are responding.

Summer is coming…

It’s clear that, despite what Dr. Ray Muzyka said, BioWare didn’t listen to fan feedback. Mass Effect fans, particularly those involved with ‘Retake Mass Effect’, were loud and clear as to what they wanted, new endings which reflected the choices they made throughout the Mass Effect series. They were even willing to pay handsomely for these new endings. Instead, BioWare decided that “artistic integrity” meant more to them than pleasing their fans. As an added insult, they justify their decision by pointing to the 75 perfect scores Mass Effect 3 received from now-discredited reviewers.

The stupidity of all this is mind-boggling. There could literally be volumes written about the ongoing public relations nightmare EA and BioWare are suffering through. “Winning” the “Worst Company in America” award from the Consumerist should have been a wake-up call for EA, it should have kept them and BioWare from releasing a statement which serves only to make their predicament worse. This is exactly what happens when companies don’t listen to fan feedback. What’s even worse is that neither seem able to grasp as to why they’re in this situation.

Do I have any sympathy for either company? No. EA’s questionable business practices of late have earned them a poor reputation and Consumerist’s “Worst Company in America” award. BioWare, on the other hand, betrayed their fans for the sake of their “artistic integrity.” This announcement won’t get disappointed gamers to buy additional content for Mass Effect 3, nor will it help sell the game itself, no matter how low the price is now (the Walmart in my area has the Playstation 3 version for a mere $29.99 and it’s not even been out for a full month yet). It doesn’t matter that this additional content is free when it’s exactly what the vast majority of fans didn’t want. All this announcement does is show why EA and BioWare deserved to be in this situation.

HOLD THE LINE!

For those who still haven’t already liked ‘Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3′ on Facebook, if you feel as myself and thousands of other Mass Effect fans do about Mass Effect 3′s endings, do it. I would also recommend that my readership think about making a charitable donation to ‘Full Paragon’, which is supporting Kids Need to Read, and/or Fisher House. Both are worthwhile causes that could use our support.

UPDATE: The more and more I think about this, the more frustrated I get. The sheer arrogance of this decision is infuriating. Mass Effect fans were loud and clear as to what they wanted, and it wasn’t “clarity and closure.” Since this backlash began last month, the vast majority of fans have stated that they want endings which reflected the choices they made throughout the Mass Effect series. They were even to pay handsomely for these new endings. Why would BioWare, knowing all this, refuse to even acknowledge that they made a mistake with Mass Effect 3 endings, let alone change them?

Clinging to “artistic integrity” will not change the fact that Mass Effect 3 isn’t selling. Units shipped aren’t games sold as store shelves are filled with unsold copies that gamers are refusing to buy, even at it’s substantially discounted price. From a business standpoint, it makes no sense to spend money developing content that doesn’t address the main problem with this game. If they will not fix the game’s endings, they should abandon Mass Effect 3 entirely. It’s possible that BioWare could salvage the Mass Effect series by telling fans what their plans are for future titles. That being said, I really don’t see how there can be another Mass Effect game considering that Mass Effect 3, as of now, is an expensive failure.

I could go on and on about how confusing and infuriating this whole mess is, but for my own sanity, I will stop for now. It’s better to spend my time with games I enjoy rather than wasting it discussing one I don’t.

It seems like I struck a few nerves with my last two posts. Some thought I had crossed over into the realm of conspiracy theories for speculating about why ‘Retake Mass Effect’s ChipIn website had gone dark, while others weren’t happy that I criticized Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins for putting an end to the movement’s contributions to their charity. To address the former, many had been wondering whether or not BioWare or Electronic Arts was forcing Child’s Play to distance itself from ‘Retake Mass Effect’. Forbes’ Erik Kain had wrote an article about a point raised by Kotaku’s Luke Plunkett recent post concerning the firing of Jeff Gerstmann from GameSpot in 2007. If a game developer could force a website like GameSpot to fire an employee for writing a negative review, what else are they capable of? A number of commenters at the BioWare Social Network had been discussing whether or not this was why the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ website had gone dark, but without any real proof, I could only speculate. I didn’t, however, endorse conspiracy theories. As for the latter, that’s a different mess entirely.

Forbes’s Dave Thier has an article up about the official statement from Jamie Dillion, a representation of Child’s Play. Though Dillion’s statement is polite, the statements made by Krahulik and Holkins were far from. They both accused ‘Retake Mass Effect’ of using Child’s Play as a shield to deflect criticism, but Holkins went much further and lied about why the movement’s ChipIn had gone dark. In a statement he as posted on Penny Arcade under his online moniker, “Tycho Brahe”, Holkins’ said, “They have stopped taking donations now partly because they basically won and partly because we don’t know how to feel about this use of the charity.” I guess he’s going to have a hard time explaining why ‘Retake Mass Effect’ is continuing its fundraising efforts with ‘Full Paragon’ after BioWare’s co-founder, Ray Muzyka released a statement Wednesday. This, aside from the fact that Robb, someone speaking on behalf of the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ ChipIn website had made it clear that he was told by Child’s Play to bring the fundraising to an end. Suffice to say, I feel that myself and others are justified in our criticism of Krahuliks and Holkins’ attempts to smear ‘Retake Mass Effect’.

In any event, it’s important that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ not get discouraged by this fiasco. Raising money for charity is a worthwhile endeavor, and I’m proud to support this movement as it has channeled its frustrations at Mass Effect 3′s endings into something constructive. Nearly $80,000 was raised, don’t forget that. This, however, isn’t the end of ‘Retake Mass Effect’s fund raising efforts. There are other charities which would welcome the movement’s help in raising funds.

As stated above, ‘Retake Mass Effect’ has started up a new charity drive, ‘Full Paragon’. One of my commenters, Jon ‘Geeksquared’ Thurtell, informed me of this effort and I have to say I’m impressed with how quickly the movement has shifted gears and found another worthwhile charity to support. ‘Full Paragon’ is raising money for Kids Need to Read, a charity that “works to create a culture of reading for children by providing inspiring books to underfunded schools, libraries, and literacy programs across the United States, especially those serving disadvantaged children.” A little interesting factoid for science fiction fans, Nathan Fillion, the star of Firefly, co-founded this charity. Do we need any other reason to donate? I think not.

Along with Kids Need to Read, I’m also going to support Fisher House. For those who have never heard of it, Fisher House is a charity which “recognizes the special sacrifices of our men and women in uniform and the hardships of military service by meeting a humanitarian need beyond that normally provided by the Departments of Defense and Veterans Affairs.” While I realize that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ is focusing now on ‘Full Paragon’, I would still hope that my readership at least could donate to this important charity.

Regardless of whether or not Mass Effect 3′s endings are changed, both of these charities are worthwhile causes. ‘Retake Mass Effect’ might have started out as a collection of upset Mass Effect fans, but it’s become so much more. If, in the end, all BioWare will give Mass Effect fans is a “clarification,” at least something truly good will have come from this movement.

Be confident, stay positive and HOLD THE LINE!

For those who still haven’t already liked ‘Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3′ on Facebook, if you feel as myself and thousands of other Mass Effect fans do about Mass Effect 3′s endings, do it. I would also recommend that my readership think about making a charitable donation to ‘Full Paragon’, which is supporting Kids Need to Read, and/or Fisher House. Both are worthwhile causes that could use our support.

Where to begin? When the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ ChipIn website went dark, many like myself assumed it was because Child’s Play was being attacked for its connection to the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement. I even wrote a post expressing my anger over the idea that someone would even dare to attack a children’s charity. I mean, who would do something so immoral? It didn’t make sense. The problem was that we weren’t being told the full truth about the situation.

For those who didn’t know, the Child’s Play was founded by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins, artists for Penny Arcade. Why is this important? Because everything that follows returns to this point. As I stated in my first article on the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement, an employee at BioWare had retweeted comments made by Penny Arcade’s Ben Kuchera, mocking Mass Effect fans who are upset with Mass Effect 3′s endings. From this point on, Penny Arcade continued to take shots at ‘Retake Mass Effect’. For example, Krahulik, who goes by the online moniker “Jon(athan) Gabriel” or “Gabe”, wrote an article saying that upset fans “shouldn’t pretend [they're] the author” as it was BioWare who wrote the story (I know, the nonsensical “games are art” defense, but let’s not get into that here). Despite this, many assumed that they would at least be happy that this movement was raising money for their charity. The problem is, they weren’t.

When it came out that Krahulik and Holkins were trying to shut down ‘Retake Mass Effect’ efforts to raise money for Child’s Play, Actinguy1 went on Twitter and started asking the two why. Only Krahulik responded and what he said was pretty damning. Here’s the full conversation and a link thread at the BioWare Social Network (BSN) where it was originally posted in. Actinguy1 goes by @TheFroats on Twitter. Pay particular attention to the bolded statement.

@TheFroats:
@cwgabriel @TychoBrahe We say, here, free money to go buy sick children toys…and you say NO??? Have you guys lost your God Damned MINDS?

@TheFroats:
@cwgabriel @TychoBrahe CP used to be about helping kids and combating negative gamer stereotypes. What changed? You forgot your mission.

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats I don’t know what to tell you man. If you read what Jamie said and still think that way I’m sorry.

@TheFroats
I did and I do. If someone says “Support child’s play if you like Kiddie Porn”, shut that down, totally. But a blanket policy?

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats Child’s Play is not a tool to draw attention to your cause. Child’s Play is the cause. That’s our feeling on it.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel It was not a tool to draw attention. It was a tool to fight a negative stereotype…which is why you guys created it, remember?

@cwgabriel:
@TheFroats it’s not your tool to fight your negative stereotype. you can not use the charity as a shield.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel It was a tool to fight “our” negative stereotype…the one you created the charity to fight. Gamers. Not ME3 detractors. Gamers.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel Maybe I can’t change your mind. But you were one of the good guys…and you broke my heart tonight. We wanted to help and we did.

@cwgabriel
@TheFroats I’m sorry man. I hope me taking the time to talk with you about it at least shows you that I care about it.

@TheFroats
@cwgabriel I don’t doubt you care, I doubt that you’re making the right call. Who’s helping the kids, who’s hurting them? Thx for your time.

It’s clear from this exchange that someone is using Child’s Play as a shield, and it isn’t ‘Retake Mass Effect’. Despite having raised nearly $80,000 for Child’s Play, Krahulik wasn’t happy that a movement he disagreed with was getting positive media coverage because it was donating money the charity he co-founded. How else does anyone explain this kind of behaviour? This kind of irrational stubborness is mind-boggling, but that’s not the point is it? He put his own feelings above the needs of the charity. This isn’t the first time he’s done this either. According to his Wikipedia article, Krahulik has a history of using charities as shields.

Krahulik has been in press online, thanks to hostile phone calls from Jack Thompson regarding an email Krahulik had sent. The email was in response to an offer Thompson had made to video game creators about creating an ultra-violent game based on a man whose son was murdered by a supposedly video game-influenced teen. Thompson claimed he would donate $10,000 towards a charity of former Take-Two Interactive chairman Paul Eibeler’s choosing if the game was made (which it eventually was). Krahulik, in the email, said he and fellow gamers had raised about half a million dollars toward charity. According to Krahulik, “Jack actually just called and screamed at me for a couple minutes. He said if I email him again I will ‘regret it’. What a violent man.”

Mike Krahulik, along with the rest of the Penny Arcade staff, later opted to “step in” for Jack Thompson. Thompson refused to donate $10,000 to charity because he considered the game put forth to meet his challenge subpar. He also claimed that his proposal was satirical and not a serious offer. Penny Arcade donated the money in his stead to the Electronic Software Association Foundation with the note, “For Jack Thompson, because Jack Thompson won’t”.

So inappropriate behaviour is acceptable as long as you donate to charity? Regardless of what your opinion of Jack Thompson is, Penny Arcade’s behaviour during their fight with him was far from aceptable. During that scuffle, Krahulik used the Electronic Software Association Foundation like a shield to deflect legitimate criticism over his inappropriate behaviour. To falsely accuse ‘Retake Mass Effect’ of doing the same thing now is blatantly hypocritical.

This story should have ended there. Child’s Play should have released a statement clarifying Krahulik comments on Twitter, apologized for any misunderstanding he caused and thanked ‘Retake Mass Effect’ for raising as much money as it did. Instead, Holkins, who goes by the online moniker “Tycho Brahe,” decided to weighed in, and by doing so, made matters worse. Here’s his statement in full.

You have almost certainly heard of “Retake Mass Effect” by now. One of many grassroots efforts to get a new ending to Mass Effect 3, it’s part community, part online petition, and part (here is where things get complicated) Child’s Play Donation Drive. They have stopped taking donations now partly because they basically won and partly because we don’t know how to feel about this use of the charity.

As the main point of contact for Child’s Play, Jamie has been buried under mail about this situation. Apparently some of the people giving to the cause seemed to think that they were paying for a new ending to Mass Effect. She’s been asked what the goal is, and how much they need to raise in order to get the ending produced. We’ve also been contacted by PayPal due to a high number of people asking for their donations back. This is in addition to readers who simply couldn’t understand how this was connected to Child’s Play’s mission. We were dealing with a lot of very confused people, more every day, and that told us we had a problem.

We have policies in place to deal with direct abuse: we don’t allow companies to use Child’s Play in order to sell more stuff. To that end we do not allow deals like “1 cent of every dollar goes to Child’s Play!” or whatever. But this isn’t anywhere on that continuum! This is a passionate community that formed around one thing, and some of that passion was expressed in charitable giving. I actually support this cause, but I am a pessimist, and I’m thinking about the next time something like this happens – when someone attaches Child’s Play to something we can’t get behind, or leverages your history of generosity and fellow feeling for their own weird bullshit. So, we need to have something like a policy on this. This is the best way I can think to say it:

Child’s Play cannot be a tool to draw attention to a cause. Child’s Play must be the Cause.

Nothing like this has ever happened in the almost ten years the charity has been running, so it kind of threw me for a loop. Thanks for listening.

Where to begin with this? Does Child’s Play or Penny Arcade not have a public relations expert? Do they not understand that by forcing ‘Retake Mass Effect’ to stop raising money for the children’s charity that they are drawing attention to the movement’s cause? This stupidity on the part of Krahulik and Holkins is mind-boggling.

As for the statement itself, who thought releasing it was a good idea? It’s a mess from start to finish. Firstly, Holkin states that since ‘Retake Mass Effect’ “already won” (it didn’t), donations to Child’s Play from the movement have stopped. This is a despicable lie. The “Clicks” section of the “My Stats” page for this blog shows that visitors are still clicking to the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ ChipIn webpage link to donate. Not only this, but as indicated by Robb’s statement, they were told by Child’s Play to shut down the webpage, not the other way around.

Why lie about this though? Because Holkins, like Krahulik, doesn’t like the fact that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ was getting positive media coverage because it was donating money the charity he co-founded. How angry must he and Krahulik be at the idea that ‘Retake Mass Effect’s donations to Child’s Play helped the movement achieve “victory” (once again, it isn’t) by getting BioWare to “change” (actually “clarify”) Mass Effect 3′s endings? Why else make mention of this in the statement if this is not the reason, or at least part of the reason?

UPDATE: Just an addition to this part of the post. Holkins mentions in his statement that “[w]e have policies in place to deal with direct abuse: we don’t allow companies to use Child’s Play in order to sell more stuff.” If that’s the case, how does he explain the charity’s participation in marketing campaigns? This from Child’s Play Wikipedia.

…During 2008 Penny Arcade Expo, Harmonix announced that three songs from the Expo will be made available for download for the Rock Band video game. The proceeds of these three songs will go to the charity…

…In 2010, Epic Games held a vote-by-purchase event between July 29 and September 6 to determine the fate of a character, Clayton Carmine, in their upcoming game Gears of War 3. Gamers voted by purchasing Xbox avatar T-Shirts through Xbox live, or real life t-shirts at the San Diego Comic-Con, with all purchases counting towards the vote.[12] The voting campaign raised over $150,000, all of which was donated to Child’s Play…

In both cases the charity raised money while assisting a video game promotion. I’m not saying it’s inappropriate, it isn’t. Child’s Play was able to raise fair bit of moneny, while Gears of War 3 and Rockband, through Harmonix, got positive media attention which resulted in more game sales. Everyone benefits from that kind of arrangement. My problem is the blatant hypocrisy in saying that the charity he co-founded doesn’t operate a certain way when it clearly does.

I also find hard to believe that many of those who donated did so because they were under the impression that the money was being raised to “buy” new endings for Mass Effect 3. Is there any truth to this claim? Not that I can see. I can’t find anything that suggests ‘Retake Mass Effect’ was being dishonest about their motives for setting up the ChipIn webpage to raise money for Child’s Play. In fact, here is what the “About” section says is the reason for raising the money.

The Retake Mass Effect – Child’s Play donation drive is a community driven effort to bring positive attention to our petition for an alternate ending to the fantastic Mass Effect series. The Child’s Play charity was chosen as a charity started by gamers to provide video games for the patients at Children’s Hospitals all over the world.

We would like to dispel the perception that we are angry or entitled. We simply wish to express our hope that there could be a different direction for a series we have all grown to love.

Thank you for your interest in our project!

Does that sound dishonest to anyone? I don’t think so. As for the amount of money that has been refunded, I can’t find any information about that either. I can say that, at the time I wrote this post, the ChipIn website has raised $79,944.16 from 4112 people. If Holkin wants to claim that “a high number of people asking for their donations back,” I demand that he provide evidence to back up that claim. So is he lying about this as well? I don’t know. I’m willing to believe that there were a few people who were confused as to what they were donating to, but only a few.

Secondly, read the comments from the thread Actinguy1 started to discusses his conversation with Krahulik on twitter. Because of Holkin and Krahulik demanded that the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ ChipIn page be shut down, there’s confusion over whether or not the money they donated is even going to Child’s Play.

Cody211282 – So he is refusing money for a charity because he doesn’t agree with us? WTF

recentio – Wow. PA uses CP to fight negative gamer stereotypes. PA rejects gamer donations intended to fight negative gamer stereotype (specifically: “entitled whiner”). That’s Starchild logic right there. Seems to me it’s okay for them to use it to fight negative gamer stereotypes but not for others. How noble.

Meteor_VII – I’m still confused did they give the money back? If not does it really matter that he ended it. He can’t throw away the fact that money was donated to that charity via the reaction to the ending of this game.

nhcre8tv1 – WHAT? Do the kids still get the help and money, though? That was the number one (and probably only) reason I jumped on this “movement” was because it was actually being productive and not self prioritized. I understand where both of you were coming from but, why would you do this? I donate to charities all the time, including child’s play, and this was just a cool thing to make the movement not pointless and whiny looking (no thanks to that FTC complainer). And did what I read true people ASKED FOR THEIR CHARITY DONATIONS BACK? WTF BRO?

Xivai – They think WE’RE the entitled ones?! What madness and hypocrisy is this! They’re doing this because their vain ego wants their charity to “look” good. But oh **** it if it’s making money for children. I understand in some cases this might be an issue like a donation to support murder or some outlandish one. But this? Because they think we don’t deserve a new ending they’re going to pull the plug on lots of children gaming. Good job. You put the being a douche in the bag.

Could this be a reason for people wanting their money back? It’s not clear. What is clear, however, is that Holkins’ and Krahulik’s hasty actions are, at least in part, to blame for this confusion. Instead of smearing ‘Retake Mass Effect’, Holkin should have made it clear that the money raised would still be going to Child’s Play. Then again, doing so would have prevented him from lying about the movement’s motives for raising the money in the first place wouldn’t it?

There are also a number of comments from people who aren’t happy that they’re being attacked by Penny Arcade for wanting BioWare to change Mass Effect 3′s endings. This is especially insulting to those who have already donated to Child’s Play.

The Angry One – Who the hell cares why people donate, if people want to donate to promote a cause let them.
Stop pretending this has anything to do with using a charity to promote a cause, that’s done all the time. The charities benefit either way.

This is the biased fools at PA making it clear that they don’t want to be associated with anything that may jeapordise their relationship with BioWare.
Gabe and Mike are a pair of shills, and they disgust me.

magikbbg – I just wanted to add that its terrible that they ended this donation drive because of “political” reasons. If they don’t agree with our message will they refund our money back? Nope. They just treated us like a terrorist organization then said “thanks for the money though”. I feel really dirty that I gave some money to the cause. I bet that money is gone, if you called childsplay they’d be like we dunno wut retake movement is. lol (jk just being cynical)

Why do I keep getting bad endings since 3-6-12 ??!

dont charities always get used as tools for movements in america? kinda like invisiblechildren to start a war for natural resoucres in uganda

Strange Aeons – I think there’s enough well-justified negativity to go around regarding the ending without trying to turn this into a major issue as well.

I don’t agree with PA’s relentlessly derogatory take on the fan response to the ending fiasco, but they’re not the bad guys here either. They’re just doing what they think they need to do to protect their organization from potential problems in the future, I guess. I can’t pretend to know all the reasons, but it’s their call.

Just be happy that $80000 was raised for a good cause and move on.

rexx1888 – O.o isnt it a bit cross purpose for them to tell us to bugger off, not 2 days they were expounding about how retake was a bunch of whiners that should stfu :|

still, it was always a bit odd that we had a SPECIFIC charity linked up, it would have made more sense to pool all the cash and then divvy it up at the final goal, like a kickstarter or something, so no charities caught the flack for our ’cause’*

* i say cause like this because im not convinced we are a cause specifically, we are a group of very disgruntled consumers asking not to be taken for a bunch of mooks by big business

Imortalfalcon – Makes sense, I see what he means.

Sure he can be the “bad guy” for shutting down something that is obviously giving money to a great cause, which this is doing, but it’s not the only message in this campaign.

- The message is “Help us change the ending of Mass Effect 3 and support Child’s Play”
- But can also be taken as “Help us change the ending of Mass Effect 3, oh and btw we support a charity so you can’t refuse or else you’re cold hearted.”

They saw it as the latter, which any owner of anything like this would see it, unfortunately. It’s just the ‘spin’ of things I believe messed it up. I see where he is coming from because it would seem like we’re using it as a shield — As previously mentioned. There’s no neutral ground here, and they went with the safe option of just ending it because of this ‘spin’ someone could see it rollin’ with.

Now if he -really- stood by his opinion and thinks supporting Retake ME3 is equivalent to supporting Child porn, he should refund everyone who donated their money back.

But I seriously doubt that’s going to happen.

Actinguy1 – I understand those that feel I shouldn’t have been so negative. I’m a human, I have emotions, and when I learned that someone I trusted had done something I saw as a betrayal, I had a knee jerk reaction.

I will continue to support Child’s Play. Unfortunately, I can not continue to support Penny Arcade.

Neow – They can stop accepting the donation from “Retake”, but taking down the page simply rings “We’ve taken your money, but we’re not crediting you for it.”

There are anonymous donors, there are donors that deserve acknowledgement.

I’m not saying they should gave the money back, taking the page down is just a display of unappreciative.

If people are actually asking that their donations be refunded after being slandered by Penny Arcade, I can’t blame them. As for the comments on comparing ‘Retake Mass Effect’ to pedophiles, I haven’t found proof of that Krahulik or Holkins made that kind of statement, but it wouldn’t surprise me if one of them did (do I need to write a post about what was said during the Jack Thompson fiasco?). Regardless of what was said, how does anyone justify attacking a group that’s trying to raise money for a worthwhile cause? Do these two not care that nearly $80,000 was raised for their charity? I guess they’re just incapable of showing humility.

In any event, it is clear to me that if anyone has misused the Child’s Play charity, it’s Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. If the cause is truly important, which I feel it is, it shouldn’t matter who’s donating and why (within reason of course). The problem is that it does to these two. They couldn’t stand the fact that a movement they didn’t support was getting positive media coverage by raising money for their charity. As usual, Krahulik and Holkins will do exactly what they accuse ‘Retake Mass Effect’ of doing, touting their charitable donations to deflect legitimate criticism of their inappropriate behaviour.

From now on I’m going to take the advice of one of the commenters at the BioWare Social Network, Harbinger of your Destiny and change the charity I link to. I’m confident that those who run Fisher House, an organization dedicate to helping military families, do so because they actually believe their cause. It’s a far more deserving charity in my opinion, and, unlike Child’s Play, it’s founders didn’t create it so they could use it as a shield.

HOLD THE LINE!

If you haven’t already liked ‘Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3′ on Facebook, and you feel as myself and thousands of other Mass Effect fans do about Mass Effect 3′s endings, do it. Also, I recommend supporters of the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement go to Fisher House and make a donation. It’s for a very good cause.

UPDATE: I’m hearing that the real reason that Child’s Play wanted to distance itself from ‘Retake Mass Effect’ was that sorting out the confusion concerning what the money was going to, was taking up too much of the charity’s resources. So much so that it was apparently undermining the charity’s ability to operate. I’m having a very hard time believing that.

Considering that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ raised over $80,000 in about two weeks, how is it that a small charity could spend over that amount, in that space of time, dealing with this apparent confusion? Why didn’t Child’s Play solve this problem by releasing a public statement earlier in the charity drive? That would have cleared up the confusion. Also, there isn’t anyone I’ve been able to identify either at the BioWare Social Network or through the movement’s Facebook page that will even admit to wanting their donation back. Could it be, as a number of people have suggested, that those who don’t support ‘Retake Mass Effect’ were calling up Child’s Play and PayPal in an attempt to undermine the charity drive? It wouldn’t surprise me. There are a lot of bad people in this world who have done worse. For example, the Susan G. Komem Foundation website was hacked by Planned Parenthood supporters after the charity pulled funding when it found out that the abortion provider was being investigated by local, state or federal authorities.

Whatever the reason for this mess, I still think that Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins handled it poorly. Krahulik’s comments on Twitter and that offensive statement Holkins released made a bad situation worse. Insulting people who donate to your charity, regardless of the reason, does more to undermine the charity’s cause than a little confusion over how funds from a charity drive are used.

UPDATE: atxbomber at the BioWare Social Network raising an intriguing point about Penny Arcade’s relationship with BioWare. Here’s the full quote, including the post he was replying to, with a link to the thread it was originally posted in.

streamlock – This whole mess has really brought to light the unbriddled unprofesionalism of just about everyone of these gaming/mag sights as a whole.

We really really need some professional game reviewers that are also practice professional journalism.

No, correction we need ‘critics’ not more white wash reviewing.

atxbomber – Correct. Even if you take Penny-Arcade’s stance regarding the Retake and Child’s Play at face value, it’s hard not to question whether there is a conflict of interest here, seeing as Penny-Arcade has a prior business relationship with BioWare and EA dating back at least to Dragon Age: Origins.

With the amount of the gaming “press” that then go on to work for developers, or are friends with them, or rely on them for advertising revenue, it’s become incredibly difficult to determine which “critics” are objective in their analysis, and which one’s are actually harbouring alterior motives.

I had forgotten that Penny Arcade had drawn comics for BioWare’s Dragon Age series. As atxbomber suggests, maybe Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins had other reasons to distance Child’s Play from ‘Retake Mass Effect’. I doubt though that Electronic Arts or BioWare would pressure them into doing it. If they did and it came out, having stories with headlines like “Game Developer Hates Children’s Charity” would be a public relations nightmare. It’s possible, however, that Krahulik and Holkins did it themselves, fearing that any connection between their charity and the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement would hurt their relationship with BioWare. Knowing these two, it wouldn’t surprise me if this was the case.

atxbomber raises another point which he’s absolutely right about. This whole debacle with Mass Effect 3′s endings has demonstrated that game reviewers can’t be trusted to be objective. Very few of them mentioned the endings, let alone discussed how depressing and incoherent they were. As to why that is, there are a few theories, but I won’t discuss them in this post.

In his statement yesterday, BioWare co-founder, Dr. Ray Muzyka made specific mention of individual attacks on BioWare employees. My comments on his arrogant statement are here for those interested, but that’s not what this post is about. It has just come to my attention that the children’s charity, Child’s Play has come under attack because of it’s apparent connection to the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement.

Yesterday, UniqueName001 posted a statement from Robb, one of those operating the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ ChipIn website, at the BioWare Social Network. Here’s the statement and a link to the thread it was orginally posted in.

Hello everyone,

As of today, I have set an end goal for our fundraiser at $80,000.

The very idea that we would even be able to reach that goal was a fever dream only a week ago. I don’t believe anyone can or should consider this effort to have been anything but spectacularly successful. As evidenced by the statement from Dr. Myzuka yesterday, we have made our voices heard. Those of you here have taken special care to be heard in a polite, positive manner, and I believe that this is a major contributor to that success.

We have shown our sincerity and passion. We have brought positive attention to the Retake Mass Effect movement.

Make no mistake. This effort has been victorious.

I have been in contact with a manager at Child’s Play. First, he wanted to stress how grateful they were for our efforts here, and the huge impact it will have in helping the charity. However, he pointed out that several sources are incorrectly assuming a link between the charity and the petition, or outright support of the petition by the charity. This has been a source of difficulty for them, and it has been requested that we wind this effort down. Again, I want to stress that the charity is not unhappy with our work, they are exceptionally pleased with what we have accomplished.

There will be conspiracy theorys regarding this. Many of the public statements by Penny Arcade have been dismissive or outright derogatory of our effort. I believe this is a failure on their part to understand our issues, but they are entitled to their opinion. Regardless, I want to stress that I do not believe for one second that this is an attempt by anyone at Penny Arcade to silence this movement.

I also want you all to know I am acting unilaterally in this decision. I have been provided many eloquent arguments against winding down the drive and I appreciate them. In the end, however, I believe that now is the time for this phase of the process to come to an close.

Retake Mass Effect is not over by any means; Dr. Myzuka’s statement was welcome, but did not directly address our concerns. You have been heard. Now it is time to make sure they get the details right :)

I will be taking a break from BSN for a time. My sincerest thanks to everyone who has supported this effort whether through donations, publicity, or kind words. Special thanks to the core group here who kept this thread polite, positive, and on track.

I hope to soon have an archive of the comments made on the ChipIn page located at http://www.wewillholdtheline.org.

To everyone here – my thanks, and I salute you.

Sincerely,

Robb

As of now, the ChipIn website has gone dark. I’m hoping this means that they were able to $80,000 Robb mentioned in his statement. In any event, I will be posting a link to Child’s Play’s website so that my readers can continue to donate.

Words cannot describe how disgusted I am at this turn of events. Regardless of what side of the debate you’re on, there is no excuse for attacking a children’s charity, who’s only crime is letting upset Mass Effect fans donate to them. I would like to know was spreading lies about Child’s Play’s connection to ‘Retake Mass Effect’. After the attacks from the Jersey Shore rejects at Destructoid, I would really like to know whether or not they’re involved. I would also like to know whether or not Penny Arcade played a part in this as well since Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins, artists for Penny Arcade, are the founders of Child’s Play. Despite what Robb says, knowing their history, it wouldn’t surprise me if they forced the shutdown of ‘Retake Mass Effect’s ChipIn website out of spite. One has to wonder whether Muzyka will now release a statement condemning the actions of BioWare’s supporters for their “destructive commentary.” After yesterday’s “grand gesture,” I doubt he has the courage to do it.

As for my own theories as to why Child’s Play wanted to distance itself from ‘Retake Mass Effect’, I would hope that a charity wouldn’t do something like this over a few angry letters. Could it be corporate pressure, like the promise of a much larger donation, that led to this? Though possible, I’m not sure this is the case. Looking at Child’s Play’s list of corporate sponsors, one will not find Electronic Arts nor BioWare among them. Destructoid, IGN, and Kotaku are also not on the list. It could be that they were promised a donation as long as it remained anonymous, but without any proof to back it up, it’s still just a theory. (UPDATE: This isn’t a conspiracy theory, its harmless speculation. Anonymous donations are common, especially if the person or entity making the donation doesn’t wish to be identified. I wasn’t the only person thinking this when the ChipIn website went dark.) It shoud be noted that Bethesda Softworks, Microsoft, Nintendo, Sony Online Entertainment, and Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment were listed as Child’s Play Platinum Sponsors. Let’s remember that next time we buy a video game.

Whatever the reason, I hope that Child’s Play made this decision because they felt it was in the charity’s best interests, and if that’s the reason, not only do I respect their choice, I support it wholeheartedly. As much as myself and others wish to see BioWare change the endings of Mass Effect 3, the efforts of this charity are far more important. If the Child’s Play’s decision costs ‘Retake Mass Effect’ some support, so be it.

As for those attacking Child’s Play, I have to say that finding out who these people are is a “witch-hunt” I will support. If anyone deserves a public shaming, it is whoever felt it necessary to spread lies concerning Child’s Play’s connection to ‘Retake Mass Effect’. If/when those behind this smear campaign are identified, I will update this post. It’s important that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ and its supporters make an effort to find out who’s responsible as this kind of conduct cannot be tolerated.

HOLD THE LINE!

If you haven’t already liked ‘Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3′ on Facebook, and you feel as myself and thousands of other Mass Effect fans do about Mass Effect 3′s endings, do it. Also, I recommend supporters of the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement go to Child’s Play’s website and make a donation. It’s for a very good cause.

UPDATE: I take it back. Apparently, Child’s Play’s motives weren’t pure. The charity’s founders, Penny Arcade’s Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins, didn’t like that ‘Retake Mass Effect’ was getting positive media coverage because it was donating money to the charity they founded. Here’s the link to the post I wrote about this fiasco.

BioWare’s co-founder, Dr. Ray Muzyka, released a statement today addressing Mass Effect fans upset over Mass Effect 3′s endings. Suffice to say, it doesn’t put an end to this mess the game developer is currently in. In fact, considering initial reactions to Muzyka’s statement from the BioWare Social Network, it makes matters worse. Particular attention is being paid to his comments on “artistic integrity.”

…I believe passionately that games are an art form, and that the power of our medium flows from our audience, who are deeply involved in how the story unfolds, and who have the uncontested right to provide constructive criticism. At the same time, I also believe in and support the artistic choices made by the development team. The team and I have been thinking hard about how to best address the comments on ME3’s endings from players, while still maintaining the artistic integrity of the game…

Is it any wonder why there’s a negative reaction to this statement? Muzyka uses the “games are art” argument to defend Mass Effect 3′s depressing and incoherent endings. I’ve already wrote at length why this argument isn’t valid, and yet here is the co-founder of BioWare using it to excuse Mass Effect 3′s poorly conceived endings. The rest of the statement is no better as Muzyka further dodges legitimate criticism by pointing to sycophantic reviews to bolster his position, while attacking the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement for the actions of a few.

…The reaction to the release of Mass Effect 3 has been unprecedented. On one hand, some of our loyal fans are passionately expressing their displeasure about how their game concluded; we care about this feedback, and we’re planning to directly address it. However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s. Net, I’m proud of the team, but we can and must always strive to do better.

Some of the criticism that has been delivered in the heat of passion by our most ardent fans, even if founded on valid principles, such as seeking more clarity to questions or looking for more closure, for example – has unfortunately become destructive rather than constructive. We listen and will respond to constructive criticism, but much as we will not tolerate individual attacks on our team members, we will not support or respond to destructive commentary…

The team won’t respond to “destructive commentary”? How about any commentary? Myself and others have been looking for any kind of statement from @masseffect on Twitter addressing these endings to no avail. Even the replies we have received are cryptic, leaving us more confused than we were previously. Muzyka’s statement is either purposely disingenuous or he has not idea what’s going on. What’s even more telling is that the comment section for this article is closed. So much for listening to feedback eh?

Before going further, I would like to address this nonsense about how those upset with Muzyka’s statement are just looking for something to complain about. Firstly, this statement is a repeat of Casey Hudson’s statement earlier this week. Having it come from one of BioWare’s co-founders does give us the impression that the game developer is taking the complaints of fans seriously, but that’s all it gives us. Muzyka didn’t say anything we didn’t already hear Hudson. Clearly, this “grand gesture” was just a public relations stunt.

Secondly, he makes the same mistake as Hudson in assuming that fans don’t want new endings, but clarification of the current endings which will bring about closure. Apparently, they think we’re not capable of understanding their “genius.” If the only problem Mass Effect fans had with the game’s ending was that it needed to be better explained, does anyone honestly believe that BioWare wouldn’t have already addressed the discrepancies between these endings and established canon in one way or another? Fans don’t like the endings because they’re depressing and incoherent, not because they can’t understand them.

Finally, fans have already laid out the groundwork for a better conclusion to Commander Shepard’s story. While I’m not entirely sold on it, the indoctrination theory has already received a lot of support from Mass Effect fans and could easily be used to take the ending as it stand now and lead into an expansion which BioWare could easily put together and make a nice profit from. Instead, we have statements by the game developer and its supporters about how “you can’t please everyone.” Why shouldn’t fans be upset when BioWare is not only ignoring them, but being purposely disingenuous about this whole situation?

Anyways, it’s not just me who sees this statement as an obvious public relations maneuver. Forbes Erik Kain has already weighed in and he is also not entirely impressed with Muzyka’s statement either.

…Moving on, Muzyka acknowledges that the fan reaction is important but quickly deflects, holding up Metacritic in BioWare’s defense. “However, most folks appear to agree that the game as a whole is exceptional, with more than 75 critics giving it a perfect review score and a review average in the mid-90s.”…

Kain doesn’t stop there, however. He then deconstructs Muzyka’s comments on accepting constructive criticism, not destructive criticism.

…Oh, to be sure, there is such thing as destructive commentary. True ad hominem does exist in the wild. But the notion that artists ought only respond to constructive criticism is delirious. If games are truly art, and the teams who develop them truly artists, why should they be treated with kid’s gloves?

“There is no need to take a “constructive” attitude with talented artists,” writes Stephen Bond, “if anything, they find such an attitude more offensive. As H.L. Mencken said: “I do not object to being denounced, but I can’t abide being schoolmastered, especially by men I regard as imbeciles.” The constructive critic is a crow who takes it upon himself to educate the eagle; one who tries to force his own limitations on those who can soar far higher, unencumbered.”

Constructive criticism, Bond argues, is a “mass hallucination.” It is “inimical to the purposes of criticism as art. I’ll say it again: the point of criticism is not to improve you, but to express me. And each time I digress to offer you helpful suggestions, encouraging remarks and other pep-talk, I am not truly expressing myself. I’m merely being polite, nice, even a bit condescending — in other words, I’m being aesthetically repulsive.”

Imagine, for a moment, if the only criticism BioWare had received was of the constructive variety. Imagine it was all polite platitudes, condescending clutter, and helpful suggestions about how to improve the game. Do you think for a moment that we’d be reading a blog post like the one Muzyka just penned?

Not likely. Of course, criticism of art can be as bad as criticism of critics. Plenty of dumb things have been said about Mass Effect 3 and, as is always the case with the internet, many of those dumb things can be found in places like Metacritic user reviews.

But the plethora of positive professional reviews are less helpful by far than much of the ‘destructive’ commentary BioWare faces. Truth rarely lies in what we want to hear. Dozens of fawning reviewers tripping over one another to offer up their perfect scores hardly encourages BioWare to improve their product. “Look how exceptional our game is! We appreciate your concern and we are listening, but by the way did you notice all these perfect scores we just received? You’re delusional, but we care.”…

I want readers of this post to remember this point. BioWare admits in this statement that it isn’t interested in listening to all feedback. They only want to hear constructive criticism, not destructive criticism, which explains exactly why they have yet to respond to upset fans who want some clarification. Muzyka, in this display of utter arrogance, shows us that he’s more interested in bragging about the opinion of professional critics than dealing with the complaints of paying customers. If anything, this statement shows that BioWare is indeed an entitled game developer.

As for “artistic integrity,” it’s clear that Muzyka’s refers to it in his statement simply to deflect criticism of the game’s endings. As Kain pointed out, if BioWare wants to be called artists, then they should act like artists and accept all forms of criticism. So if they won’t accept valid criticisms like an artist, will let allow for their “artwork” to be judged as such? Clearly they don’t want that either. Nowhere in Muzyka’s statement is there any mention to the artistic failings pointed out by those like Adam Robert Thomas from the California Literary Review and Eternalsteelfan. I guess their criticism wasn’t “constructive” enough to be listened to. So if we can’t judge them as artists, nor their work as art, then why is “games are art” a valid defense? It isn’t. As I said earlier, Muzyka is simply using it to excuse Mass Effect 3′s poorly conceived endings. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if his “maintaining the artistic integrity of the game” did mean that BioWare wasn’t going to make any real changes to the game’s current endings. “Games are art” afterall right?

If BioWare and Electronic Arts were hoping that this statement would calm things down, they were clearly mistaken. It wasn’t an apology, nor an attempt to find common ground between the game developer and its fans. It’s a dodge, an insincere gesture done to give ‘Retake Mass Effect’ a false sense of accomplishment. This wasn’t humility, but arrogance, on display for all to see. This was a statement from an entitled game developer telling upset fans that he understands they’re upset, but is far more interested in sychophantic praise of from the gaming media. If Paul Muzyka and BioWare are incapable of apologizing to Mass Effect fans for this debacle and promising to provide better endings, then Electronic Arts should replace them with people who can.

And to all those who are celebrating this statement as some kind of victory, think again. BioWare didn’t surrender. This was, at most, an attempt by a losing side to seek a cease fire. Until they’re ready to raise the white flag, HOLD THE LINE!

Once again, for those who still haven’t already liked ‘Demand a better ending to Mass Effect 3′ on Facebook, if you feel as myself and thousands of other Mass Effect fans do about Mass Effect 3′s endings, do it. Also, I recommend supporters of the ‘Retake Mass Effect’ movement go to ‘Retake Mass Effect’ and make a donation to Child’s Play. It’s for a very good cause.